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entertain,me 😎

Because it resides in your head

So you are defining "you" as something in your mind?

If everything that resides in your head is you, then a brain parasite is also you.

9:09 PM

Then, why is a tulpa you?

Im curious what GodofTrees thinks about DID alters as well

I don't mean in a physical sense

Since we’re asking about definitions of course

That makes no remote sense

9:10 PM

Obviously a parasite isn't you if it can invade your body

9:10 PM

That's just common sense

entertain,me 😎

I don't mean in a physical sense

Well then define it better

9:10 PM

Your whole brain and its activity is you. Is this your definition?

If it's not you

9:11 PM

Then who are you

That’s what I’m working to find out

That's just dissociation

it's arbitrary

9:11 PM

you choose what is you and that's how you experience it

9:11 PM

thoughts are you? then they are you. they aren't? then they aren't

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

it's arbitrary

Thats what ive been trying to tell for the whole conversation and noone seems to understand

That exactly what I said earlier tho

9:12 PM

If you can choose it

9:12 PM

It's conscious

9:12 PM

If not it's unconscious

You are mixing stuff now... Lets not get more complicated words into this

But it's still you regardless

Conscious and unconscious are banned! (edited)

I already said this like 3 times earlier

entertain,me 😎

But it's still you regardless

Its still your mind

Which is you

Not you

9:13 PM

Only if you define yourself as the mind

Then your mind isn't you?

Wouldnt you say tulpas have their own minds though?

entertain,me 😎

But it's still you regardless

Okey, so you say its you because you define you as everything going on in your brain, is this correct? Please confirm.

Whose memory and feeling do you harbor and how but your own?

I say we just share a brain

entertain,me 😎

Then your mind isn't you?

A tulpa is separate from the personality the mind usually uses

9:13 PM

If that makes sense

berockly (TTG)

A tulpa is separate from the personality the mind usually uses

Which is unconscious

9:14 PM

You can't control it can you?

9:14 PM

But it still reside in your body

9:14 PM

It's still you

entertain,me 😎

Which is unconscious

You have way less control of things than you realize

entertain,me 😎

But it still reside in your body

Like a big fat tapeworm parasiting you! (edited)

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Like a big fat tapeworm parasiting you! (edited)

You keep speaking about physical thing which are obviously not you

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Okey, so you say its you because you define you as everything going on in your brain, is this correct? Please confirm.

can you answer this please?

berockly (TTG)

You have way less control of things than you realize

I mean yeah

When you walk, you are only controlling your intention to do things, if even that

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Okey, so you say its you because you define you as everything going on in your brain, is this correct? Please confirm.

Yes, it's you

you are intending to move forward, and your body walks

entertain,me 😎

You keep speaking about physical thing which are obviously not you

You say that like there is a objective truth about what is and is not you...

Whether u recognize it or not

entertain,me 😎

Yes, it's you

Well then i define you as everything going on on the universe and therefore everything is you. Or i can choose to define you as some parts of whats going on on your brain and then tulpas might not be you depending on how i do this...

9:16 PM

Do you think there is an objective truth about what is and is not you?

It's all subjective in the end, but it generally makes no sense to say someone else can control your body (edited)

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Well then i define you as everything going on on the universe and therefore everything is you. Or i can choose to define you as some parts of whats going on on your brain and then tulpas might not be you depending on how i do this...

I am only the heart

@berockly (TTG) - jump in the past people thought heart is where mind and soul were residing

entertain,me 😎

It's all subjective in the end, but it generally makes no sense to say someone else can control your body (edited)

Generally because you are not used to tulpamancy.

entertain,me 😎

It's all subjective in the end, but it generally makes no sense to say someone else can control your body (edited)

But as i Said you dont really control your body directly

berockly (TTG)

But as i Said you dont really control your body directly

Then how are you typing

lets play define "directly" now! Im leaving in this round, im sorry... (edited)

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Generally because you are not used to tulpamancy.

Body, mind and soul are all you

entertain,me 😎

Then how are you typing

Bc i have nerves that move my body from brain signals

It's all subjective in the end, but it generally makes no sense to say someone else can control your body

@entertain,me 😎 - jump you said before that you meant to say that what is "you" is arbitrary. in similar way, someone else controlling your body is, since you can just choose some part of what is going on in your body to not be "you"

berockly (TTG)

Bc i have nerves that move my body from brain signals

Which is an unconscious action (edited)

9:18 PM

But that doesn't make it not you

entertain,me 😎

Body, mind and soul are all you

If you believe in souls, this isnt true silly Your sense of you can exist without your body

That's only if root your sense of self to your soul

anyway what i'm trying to say is that you are both right, dummies

9:19 PM

stop arguing

Nobody's arguing

entertain,me 😎

But that doesn't make it not you

Unless i have a slightly different definition of the word "you"...

Then make me understand

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

anyway what i'm trying to say is that you are both right, dummies

I said that 1h ago kitkat, there is no way...

entertain,me 😎

Then make me understand

Understand what? That your own definition is not the only possible one in the universe? I think thats pretty obvious.

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

It's all subjective in the end, but it generally makes no sense to say someone else can control your body

@entertain,me 😎 - jump you said before that you meant to say that what is "you" is arbitrary. in similar way, someone else controlling your body is, since you can just choose some part of what is going on in your body to not be "you"

You literally just described the conscious and unconscious

Everyone’s definition is different, that’s kinda what everyone is saying ig

no? lol

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Understand what? That your own definition is not the only possible one in the universe? I think thats pretty obvious.

I never said my way was the only way

why are you putting labels on things i talked about that i didn't use

9:21 PM

i guess you misunderstood

I'm asking you to explain to me what your ideal definition of you (edited)

Your boundaries of self are an interpretation

entertain,me 😎

I'm asking you to explain to me what your ideal definition of you (edited)

You never even gave a good one of your own, we had to make it for you until you agreed... (edited)

berockly (TTG)

Your boundaries of self are an interpretation

Which is a matter of perspective, meaning it's still you even if.it is t in the front row seat

if it's a matter of perspective than it's the matter of perspective

9:22 PM

you can't say "it's matter of perspective" and then say "it's this perspective" lol

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You never even gave a good one of your own, we had to make it for you until you agreed... (edited)

If you aren't gonna explain to me your reasoning and just downplay how I think then I don't need to conversation with you

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

if it's a matter of perspective than it's the matter of perspective

You dont get it kitkat, its only a matter of perspective when it confirms their view on it...

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

if it's a matter of perspective than it's the matter of perspective

Perspective is only subjective to self

entertain,me 😎

Which is a matter of perspective, meaning it's still you even if.it is t in the front row seat

Your true self (not your self boundaries) is just a Point of awareness that experiences things

Which is you

9:23 PM

Your opinion

is it the matter of perspective or not?

Is it not you?

entertain,me 😎

If you aren't gonna explain to me your reasoning and just downplay how I think then I don't need to conversation with you

Listen, im not trying to get you to understand that "tulpas really are not you", i dont really care about how you define identity, im just saying that its a choice you make.

if it is matter of perspective then it ends here

9:24 PM

you can't say it's the matter of perspective and then say one perspective wins over

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Listen, im not trying to get you to understand that "tulpas really are not you", i dont really care about how you define identity, im just saying that its a choice you make.

If it's a choice it's conscious, meaning it's still you

You are mixing layers like crazy